You are probably a maker and a manager


Set the Agenda:
Quality Meetings Don't Just Happen

A newsletter from Jess Britt Consulting

In this week's newsletter

  • A 2009 essay on maker vs. manager schedules and why it still resonates
  • How to apply the distinction to yourself, your team, and your calendar
  • Warm-up and checkout questions you can use today
  • Your weekly bird break

A big thank you to Set the Agenda reader Dudney Sylla, Partnership Director at Axim Collaborative, who put this 2009 article on my radar a couple months ago. I’ve kept revisiting its wisdom since. In it, Paul Graham, co-founder of Y Combinator, describes two distinct types of schedules: the maker's and manager's.

Makers need long uninterrupted stretches of time to dedicate to cognitively demanding work. They conceive of their days as 1-2 long work blocks.

Managers typically take their day hour-by-hour (or in even smaller increments) and are constantly context-switching.

A quick ad-hoc meeting doesn’t faze a manager if they have an open block. But when a manager schedules an ad-hoc meeting with a maker, without considering how it fits in their maker schedule, a quick meeting or two can disrupt a full day’s work.

Neither schedule is inherently better, they serve different purposes.

Understanding the difference can help us manage our teams and our relationships with peers and leaders better

Early in my career, I worked in fundraising at an educational NGO that held a monthly family day. Since I didn’t have to be onsite, I used that day to plan. I’d make dozens of phone calls to schedule upcoming events with every department.

Unfortunately, those department heads were in charge of running family day, which was stressful and jam-packed. I was completely oblivious that my “free day” to plan was actually one of their busiest days of the month and not a good time to call about something happening in 3 weeks.

Since then, I’ve tried much harder to balance my own scheduling preferences with the needs of the people I’m scheduling with.

Invitations:

  • Consider whether you and your teammates are primarily in maker or manager schedule mode and how you might be more cognizant of those modes and your schedule differences as you schedule meetings with others.
  • Consider setting some scheduling norms with your team, boss, and/or peers. Example: meetings only between 1-4:00 ET, Mon-Thurs. You could even share the article with your team and discuss how this shows up in your workplace.

Understanding the difference can also help us better manage ourselves

The binary maker vs. manager distinction makes so much sense…until you stop and think about whether you or anyone you work with cleanly fits in one of those buckets. For most of us, we have responsibilities that require a manager schedule and we have work that needs a maker schedule.

I learned this the hard way when I oversaw a national survey system. Every time the survey was open, I’d send the survey link out and with that off my list, I'd plan to start a bigger strategic project (maker work). But then the questions would come in. Then I realized: answering ad-hoc questions about the survey was actually a core part of my job during that window. I was in manager mode whether I wanted to be or not. Once I accepted that, I started planning my maker work around the survey cycle instead of on top of it.

Invitations:

  • Cluster meetings. Meetings require a different energy, so group them at the same time of day and/or same day(s) of week. The schedule can change seasonally (like mine with the surveys).
  • Be realistic about what you can achieve in between meetings. You can probably knock out a few emails between meetings, but you won’t be able to draft a strategy deck. Don’t forget to account for meeting prep and follow-up tasks when you think about what you can achieve in a day.
  • Hold office hours. By blocking consistent time when people know they can grab you, you’ll pre-empt the emergency meeting in the middle of your work block.

Want to apply these concepts in your work?

Start with yourself: take 10 minutes to audit your schedule.

Look at the last two weeks:

  • How much of your time was spent in maker mode vs. manager mode?
  • How well does that balance align with your actual responsibilities?

Now look ahead two-to-three weeks:

  • Where can you carve out and protect one maker mode block for yourself?
  • Where might you lean into manager mode more explicitly?

For example: you already have two meetings an hour apart, you might schedule 1-2 more meetings in that cluster to make it a manager afternoon OR move one of those meetings to carve out more of a maker day.

Then bring it to your team: at your next team meeting or in 1:1s, ask:

  • How well do our scheduling habits respect each other’s maker and manager time?
  • What’s one scheduling norm we could try for the next few weeks?

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Use these to start and end your meetings this week

Warm-up question

When you have a day with no meetings, what do you do with it?

Listen for patterns: some people will describe deep focus work (maker mode), others will describe catching up on messages and scheduling or having ad-hoc meetings (manager mode). This is helpful data for you as a leader and colleague. This can also tee up a conversation about the essay if your whole team reads it.

Check-out question

What's your most important task for the rest of the week and how well does your calendar support you getting it done?

Best at the end of a team meeting or 1:1. Give people a moment to think before answering. The two-part structure is intentional: naming the task creates accountability, and evaluating whether the calendar supports it surfaces scheduling conflicts before they derail the work. If someone says their calendar doesn't support it, that's a great opening to problem-solve together.

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